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Wondering the steps to take to make my note 8 totally anonymous so there's less chance of anything getting hacked after downloading tor system. Is it enough to just check all the boxes on apps under the orbit settings or do you need to take out all apps and restart them after downloading the network? Appreciate it if anyone knows for sure.

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    You will not be able to simply install an app or set of apps and make your phone totally anonymous or significantly more resistant to hacking.
    – cacahuatl
    Feb 28, 2018 at 8:12
  • don't use android (at least no stock android - or even worse with gapps) if you want to get really anonymous. || and anonymity has very little to nothing to do with hack-ability! Oct 29, 2018 at 13:05

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As far as I know, open the orbot and just click connect. And turn on the vpn, firstly because it hides your location from where you're using Tor. And secondly because guardian project wouldn't have included the vpn option in the orbot app if it was an anonymity compromising option. Also,don't change any default settings in the orbot app.

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Well, basically you can use an Orbot app and just connect. But digging deeper with TCPDump and WireShark tools it's going to be an AOSP with a custom build with custom iptables rules just right from the start - it's taking governance over the traffic a way more earlier than Orbot or any app. If you need a fully sealed isolation - use a separate hardware box like on Raspberry Pi or Asus TinkerBoard - there's no other way to make it safe and secure

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I don't know much about the VPN tied to Orbot or Orfox. I will say this, from a security standpoint, it's always better running a VPN and TOR together as you may know. What's important here, is the privacy policy of the VPN service you use. Some will keep logs of traffic from your machine and if subpoenaed by the authorities subsequently have to turn them over. As an example if you were to purchase a subscription from a provider such as "Private Internet Access", you will clearly see that they keep no logs of any user activity. Meaning even if subpoenaed they won't be able to turn over any of your netflow because they don't record it.

You can get that particular service for $2.90 a month, or $40 for a year on multiple devices. I highly recommend it before connecting to the TOR network.

My apologies in advance for not being able to definitively answer your question. Also for any typos and my grammar. I'm still new to this, but happy to help if you have any further questions.

Kind Regards, Liquid

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    Wrong. It is not always better to run a VPN and Tor together. In most cases this is worse. The VPN providers policy doesn't matter, I've seen first hand the logs of VPN providers who claim they do not log. Beyond that, such logs are of little to no value over just logging the users connection to the VPN provider since a VPN provides little to no protection beyond what Tor is providing.
    – cacahuatl
    Feb 28, 2018 at 8:10
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    "Without a VPN your traffic runs unencrypted through the ISP. This gives the ISP the ability to see each address you are trying to reach in plain-text." <- Not if you're using Tor.
    – cacahuatl
    Mar 1, 2018 at 15:42
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    "VPN your traffic is encrypted at your device and passed through the ISP encrypted, to the VPN server, and from there you're considered "anonymous"." <- No, you are not, by any means, anonymous. The VPN is an ISP too.
    – cacahuatl
    Mar 1, 2018 at 15:43
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    "If you connect to TOR through a VPN your ISP can't see what information is going out OR coming in." <- this is also true if you just use Tor.
    – cacahuatl
    Mar 1, 2018 at 15:43
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    See my long-form writing of my thoughts on the subject here and here.
    – cacahuatl
    Mar 4, 2018 at 0:03

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